Obama; the Moral relativist vs the Jewish Creator

“I can’t imagine my god would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity…”Barack Obama: The 2004 “God Factor” Interview Transcript

It’s true that it certainly took some courage to speak on this subject as a person seeking political office. And it’s also true that the majority of politicians avoid speaking on unpopular biblical teachings like eternal punishment, not so much because they want to be vague, but because they are wary of directly attacking the straight forward teachings of the bible and Jesus himself, which are the basis of the Christian faith. The faith which itself was the basis for the formation of the nation. Thus many presidents, no matter what doubts or antagonism they had about scripture, felt that an attack on the scriptures would weaken the nation’s moral structure. Others, though not professing Christians per se, still had an instinctive fear of offending the deity and so were reluctant to hold forth. The interesting thing about Barack Obama is, he has professed his “Christian faith” more often than many modern presidents, and plays his personal savior card often, and yet unlike his predecessors, he has openly scoffed at the biblical Jesus on more issues than all previous presidents combined. Which is odd, if he actually believes that Jesus is the creator incarnate. In an earlier post we mentioned his insistence that “there are many paths” to heaven, once again ignoring the teachings of Jesus in Matthew 7:14; “Enter ye at the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction,” among many other verses.

But in all fairness, his talk of many paths to heaven, and the taking on of a more popular, broad and liberal attitude towards religion and mankind in general is nothing more than repeating the secular relativism which is taught on ten thousand college campuses across this country. However, the popularity of a view doesn’t guarantee its accuracy and we really can’t expect secular atheists to espouse a faith in eternal punishment. As we pointed out in a previous post, the idea that all religions are somehow equal is bizarre if just a little research is done, and as the president has proven to be more than a little incompetent in his treatment of history, he fails completely as a theologian.

His attack on Scripture and thus Scripture’s God is nothing new; he simply accuses God of being guilty of sending innocent people to unending fiery deaths in the lake of fire; and he reasons, if that is true, this god, the god of the bible, must be an unjust god and therefore not worthy of his title. However, in Revelation 20:13 it says; “The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.” Again; “All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left,” Matthew 25:32, 33.   And in Revelation 21 it says;

“He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away… But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

No mention of innocent children there. The bible carefully avoids saying all babies go to heaven; can you imagine how that might work out in a world awash in abortion and infanticide? Ever looked at the stats of how many girl babies and others are killed in China and India alone? And in America abortions take place most often to remove the responsibility of the sexual union between those who view it as a mere vehicle for their own pleasure. In 2 Samuel 12:15-22 the story of David’s first born to Bathsheba is told. While the baby lingered between life and death David fasted and prayed, while lying upon the ground. But when the baby died David rose up and ate. When his servants asked him about his behavior, he said, “…he cannot come to me, but I shall go to him.” It appears that God accepts babies and doesn’t cast them into lakes of burning fire.

Both these verses on judgement, as countless others in scripture, talk of people being judged for what they have done. It’s just possible that the Creator of the universe knows more about judgement than we do.

Also, in the quote above Obama indicates he thinks that all religions and all cultures are somehow equal and innocent, no matter what their behavior, if they haven’t been handed a bible tract or been evangelized by a Christian missionary (which might explain why he is against evangelism). But Romans Ch.1, and indeed the entire history of the bible indicates that the knowledge of God is easily obtainable from nature itself, that all mankind came off of the ark ( as thousands of flood stories all over the world imply) and indeed, His basic moral laws are imbedded in their consciences’. The bible clearly indicates that contrary to popular thinking, men are not earnestly seeking the knowledge of God, but in reality are running from god. In fact, men are actually deliberately suppressing the truth of god. In such a world, innocent children don’t stay innocent very long. So biblically, the world is not the nice, neutral place that Obama and the relativists make it out to be. And even in the church there is a long history of replacing scriptural standards with interpretations that are more accommodating to us and our culture. Man is running from God.

And God does not view mankind as we do. In five thousand years of recorded history we see constant war, long histories of human sacrifice, infanticide, a total disregard for God’s strict but protective sexual standards, adultery, promiscuity, rape and the resultant diseases, the mistreatment of women, men, children and various races, and God must look upon every single abortion, act of infidelity, every work of pornography, etc. without end. And perhaps just as bad, are the scores of people who see themselves as unworthy of hell. Because they have rejected God’s standards, or have readjusted them to fit their own ideas or ethics, they are more self-pious than the most self-righteous Pharisee; being absolutely politically or culturally correct in every area; in their own eyes they are beyond reproach. But God has different standards, and if Christians can ignore the scriptures and the working of the Holy Spirit upon their consciences, how much more a hardened atheist who has tuned himself to every to every whim of his “enlightened” culture?

God does not see us as we see ourselves; He sees the reality we are so good at ignoring. We love to stand up in a classroom and say, “I would never judge a homosexual couple who are in love” God might ask, “Why not? You might save one or both of them from an early death from HIV. You might save his temporal life as well as his eternal.” But in doing so, you also place yourself at risk. It’s easier to play the chameleon game with the culture, than become a martyr. But remember, the lake of fire is full of the cowardly and the faithless; at least those that are outside of Christ and not hiding themselves in his mercy.

And the president belongs to a political party that has promoted the death of millions of babies in saline bath abortions and even endorsed post birth infanticide for those who survive the burning baths. A party that targets its enemies with the IRS, FBI, OSHA, ATF, FEC and almost every supposedly non-partisan government agency under his authority. As acting president he appears to have deliberately repeated many false statements, easily proven to be false, so it’s understandable why he would look askance on a lake of fire for all those who have grown comfortable at toying with the truth for their own ends.

Maybe God is evil, but I don’t think so. If he is evil we are in a world of trouble. But I have noticed that atheists and those like the president who hold atheist worldviews, seem to have no trouble following lesser gods. Having rejected the God of Scripture they have scrabbled behind human leaders who were beyond all doubt guilty of the most heinous crimes, tyrants like Stalin, Mao, Hitler and a dozen other ruthless atheist leaders.

But despite the claims of these lesser gods and their followers, the God of the bible is not a liar and he is not evil and is not a destroyer of innocent human babies; and a wealth of evidence exists that asserts both his goodness and that He is still on His throne. Obama may condemn innocent babies to saline baths and strip them of their humanity and thus their human rights with an appalling and arrogant ease, but God won’t. He is just and righteous. Don’t believe that? Well, you’ll just have to wait and see. The verdict on Obama is in- the verdict on the God of the bible, though he stands condemned by many, is still out. But it’s coming.


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2 Responses to Obama; the Moral relativist vs the Jewish Creator

  1. Steven Posey says:

    Wow, what a powerful message. It is surprising (to me and people used to hearing the politically correct babbling) to hear things in perspective.


  2. notmanynoble says:

    Thanks, Steven, Even as Christians it’s hard to hold on to a biblical worldview with our fallen natures fighting against us, how much more so when the highest power in the land is babbling against it?


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